Before posting, read your poems four times.
1. Read and record your response.
2. Read, using FIRST. The PowerPoint is on my web page. What do you notice?
3.Read, putting together the information from using FIRST.
4. Read again. How has your response changed from your first reading?
Below, in your comment, share what you discovered in your reading process.
How is your poem linked to any other work in this unit thematically?
My group had the poem "Do Not Weep, Maiden, for War is Kind". The first time I read it I didn't understand it because it's saying that war is kind and war is not a good thing. The second time I read it I understood it better and realized that it was being sort of sarcastic and meant the opposite because it was conveying the horrors of war. When I read it once again after reviewing the FIRST slideshow, I began to notice different poetic devices too, like the first line of the last stanza that says "mother whose heart hung humble" has alliteration in it. When I read it for the fourth time I understood it even more and I think I really get the poem a lot better than I did the first time I read it.
ReplyDeleteThe poem that i had was They Have Not Been Able. The poem is about a person who is in a prison cell and is listening to the sound of the rain. He is saying that they have taken everything from him, but they havent taken the rain's song and he's thinking that he should enjoy it becasue tomorrow. They might take that away too. After reading it over a couple of times i realized that the rain's song is about the last thing that he has that they havent taken away. At first i thought it was just about a man in prison who enjoys listening to it, but its much more than that. This is linked to the other stories that we have read because it relates to The Prisoner Who Wore Glasses becasue it also takes place in prison and is about what is being taken away from them.
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ReplyDeleteI read "Ghost of a Chance" and when I first read it, I pictured a fish that is washed up on the beach and it just out of reach of the water. On the technical side, it is in free style and has no rhyme in the poem. After reading it a few more times, I understood that the fish was like a man with a problem and he is kind of lost. He is almost stranded and he needs a lifeline and someone to help him. With his problem, he is almost to the solution but he can't quite reach it and he is running out of possibilities. The title means that the chance of his thoughts to reach a solutions is barely there and he can't reach it, like a ghost.
ReplyDeleteMy poem "Do not weep, miden, for war is kind" is linked to other works in this unit because it is about results of war. The result of the war in my poem was the soldier dieing. In the poem I found repitition. I also found alliteration. The poem had a sarcastic tone to it because it said something but meaning the complete opposite, like when it said war was kind. The more I read this more the more I could understand it.
ReplyDeleteIn my reading of the poem "The Artillrtyman's Vision" I discovered that war is very similar, even in different eras. In Fallen Angels, Perry talks about the sounds of the war, such as the artillery coming down and the M60 firing right next to in Vietnam. In Walt Whitman's poem he talks about the sounds of regimants charging, the missles firing and the sound of the wind through the trees.
ReplyDeleteThe things that i noticed in my poem "The Sonnet Ballad" after reading it multiple times is that the speaker is speaking for all of the wifes and lovers back home of soldiers and that she is speaking to mopther nature as "mother" not her litteral mother. I think that she hates the war war makes her man less manley and more hesitent with simple things like saying yes. I dont like this poem i think that where she says where is happyness shouldnt be the main point becasue it really dosnt connect too much to the body of her poem where she talks about her sadness about how her lover changes to become more soft and to "court death" which makes him depressed instead of courting a women. This peom includes repitition and a little end rhyme.
ReplyDeleteUsing the FIRST acronym helped in my understanding of the poem. The poem seems rather straightforward, but when you read it over several times you can begin to feel and hear what Armando Valladares, or the speaker of the poem, was. He describes the rain well enough for this to happen. The theme he is depicting is that you have to enjoy the little things, repeating throughout his poem that 'they could take it away tomorrow.' It fits into the unit because we have read about facing the enemy, who the speaker was imprisoned by in the poem.
ReplyDeleteI read "The Artilleryman's Vision" by Walt Whitman. This poem is incredibly descriptive, sights, sounds and smells are all provided and it makes you feel like you're in the heat of the battle. It is about a war veteran falling asleep and dreaming of being back in the Civil War. He doesn't seem scared of the war or even negative towards. From reading it a few times the dream he's having makes the war seems amazing and like you would almost want to be there to witness it. Also he says, "rosuing even in dreams a devilish exultation and all the old mad joy in the depths of my sould," Like he enjoyed being in the war in some crazy way. It is similar to other things we've read in the way it's about a war, but other stories make war seem terrible, and this one makes it seem astounding.
ReplyDeleteAs I read The Song Ballad by Gwendolyn Brooks, I used the "FIRST" guide to help me. It was really helpful because I noticed things I don't think I would have without it. I noticed sounds and different tones, which normally I wouldn't have paid much attention to. This poem uses repetition when it repeats, "Oh mother, mother, where is happiness?" By repeating this line, it really emphasises that the speaker is confesed and lost.
ReplyDeleteI read "The Sonnet Ballad" by Gwendolyn Brooks, I don't really like this poem because I think it is kind of boring and I don't like reading about love unless it is really intense. When I read the poem the first few times I didn't really get it, I understood her husband was going to war and she was sad but not really anything else. After reading it a few more times I understood that she was sad not only because he was going to war but because he chose to go to war and she says he is just flirting with death. This poem did have good imagery because I could see how sad she would be because I would also be very sad. It also uses repetition repeating the line "Oh mother, mother, wheere is the happines". This lines shows she is so sad and she weeps about it to her mother.
ReplyDeleteMy group read "The Sonnet Ballad". I liked the poem because I think it describes how families feel when their loved ones go to war. It tells about a lover at home missing her husband at war. I like how she asks her mother where she can find happieness. It is repeated several tims throughout the poem expressing theme of the poem. It shows that even in older years of life, children still look up to their parents for advice. The poem is sad and full of emotions. The lover in the poem does not like how her husband is at war playing with death and the chance that she may never see him again.
ReplyDeleteThe poem my table read was from "Simple Poetry." At first. I thought the poem was about how the author wants to die. Using FIRST helped me understand it a little bit more. Even though it is an incredibly short poem, it was written formally and with a flow. There was a lot of imagery, and almost all of it referred to nature, with references to leaves, dark, light, the sun, and natural doors. It does not rhyme or have much rhythm, but it flows very well. After reading it a few more times, i think the speaker is saying he wants to die, but in an honorable and natural way and he wants to be remembered as a hero of the world.
ReplyDeleteMy poem for this assignment is "Do not weep, maiden, for war is kind." At first I kind of liked it. I liked how there was repetition, but I didn't like it also because it seemed that a man was consouling(sp) a woman about her son, but was also saying how it is his duty to die. So he was basically saying war is kind,but your son will die. There is no rhyme. When using the FIRST i realized that each stanza means something else. The first one is about was itself and how her husband,lover, went to war. The second one is what happens in the war before the fighting. Also the land, where people die. The next one is about her father dying and how he took his last breath. The second to last one is talking about the men of the army and how it was their purpose in life to fight for their nation and die. Then the last one the narrator is describing the woman and to me it seemed like now her son is going off to war. Her dad, husband, and son all went to war and she is sad because she has seen what has happened before and someone is trying to help her.
ReplyDeleteThe poem that my table had to read was "look at this)" by E.E. Cummings. At first when I read this poem, I thought that it was very choppy and slow to read because of the breaks in the stanzas. Something interesting that I noticed while using FIRST was that the stanzas start with 6 lines, then go down to 5, then 4, and so on and so on, untill it gets to 1 which represents death basically, and each stanza might represent a stage of life. Some of the more outstanding imagery that was used was "a new nice pine box", and I thought that this was a different way of basicly describing a casket without actually saying casket. There was no rhyme to the poem. After reading the poem again I realized that it actaully kind of makes sense after you learn when to pause and stuff like that. Overall the poem was about a person (the speaker) who tells the tale of his friends death in war, and then helping carry his casket to a plane to ship his corpse back to his mother.
ReplyDelete"The Artilleyman's Vision" is a poem about the dreams a Civil War veteran has about the war. He recalls the scenes of devistation, and bloodshed vividly. He even recalls the sounds of cannons, gunfire, and the suffocating feeling of cannon smoke. He also describes how the men basically line up to fire at each other, and the calm before fire.This poem is related to Fallen Angel because not only is about war, but it connects with how soldiers feel. For example The Artilleryman describes the sound of the cannon as a mad joy, which is how some in Fallen Angels feel when fighting the enemy.
ReplyDeleteMy group was assigned "Ghost of a Chance", by Adrienne Rich on page 641. At first, it kind of confused me but after closer analysis using FIRST, I understand it much better. There is no rhyme, but there is an extended metaphor throughout it comparing the man thinking, to a fish in the sea. It uses the reader's sense of touch quite often.
ReplyDeleteI read "The Artilleryman's Vision." It written in the point of view of a soldier in the Civil War whose in battle. It shows the chaos of battle. It is written rather literally, and there is'nt much figurative language. There is a lot of onomatopoeia, however, which imitates the sounds of the guns. It is like the other stories and poems in the section because it is about soldiers in a war.
ReplyDeleteThe poem MY table read was "look at this)" by E.E. Cummings. The first few times I read the poem, I had no idea what the author was trying to say. After breaking it down, I now understand what the poem is about and during the analyzation I looked at the form and noticed that the number of lines in each stanza decreased each time by one. Starting at 6 and ending at 0. Overall a sad yet clever poem.
ReplyDeleteI read the poem "Do Not Weep Maiden, for War is Kind" by Stephen Crane. When I first read this poem I was confused and it didn't seem to make much sense. The line "for war is kind" was contradicting because war is definitely not kind. The second time I read the poem I understood the meaning behind it and the way the author is adding humor. The author is writing about death and pain and that it's okay for all of this to happen. Crane knows that all of this is wrong but is agreeing with the people who think war is acceptable. He is trying to get these people to realize that war is wrong. I enjoyed the poem after I read it over and understood it.
ReplyDeleteI read the poem "Do Not Weep Maiden, for War is Kind" by Stephen Crane. When I first read this poem I was confused and it didn't seem to make much sense. The line "for war is kind" was contradicting because war is definitely not kind. The second time I read the poem I understood the meaning behind it and the way the author is adding humor. The author is writing about death and pain and that it's okay for all of this to happen. Crane knows that all of this is wrong but is agreeing with the people who think war is acceptable. He is trying to get these people to realize that war is wrong. I enjoyed the poem after I read it over and understood it.
ReplyDeleteI read the poem "Do Not Weep Maiden, for War is Kind" by Stephen Crane. When I first read this poem I was confused and it didn't seem to make much sense. The line "for war is kind" was contradicting because war is definitely not kind. The second time I read the poem I understood the meaning behind it and the way the author is adding humor. The author is writing about death and pain and that it's okay for all of this to happen. Crane knows that all of this is wrong but is agreeing with the people who think war is acceptable. He is trying to get these people to realize that war is wrong. I enjoyed the poem after I read it over and understood it.
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ReplyDeleteHe seems like he wants to die and die for a reason, then once he does die he wants to go to heaven rather than hell. The views of death for this poet seems pretty straight forward. This poem is indeed free verse in the sense ther is no rhyming or rhythm, but it is also formal because it is in stanzas and set lines in each. Ther is tons of imagery throughout this short poem, "the natural door", "a cart of green leaves", "with my face to the sun" setting vivid images and distinctive images. Rhyme is not present in this particular poem neither a specific rhythm. Sounds and sense are present though, the sensory details that are present have to do with sight and touch. Sounds are consonance within the lines.
ReplyDeleteI thought I posted here already. But anyways, I read the poem, "Ghost of a Chance" by Adrienne Rich. I thought this poem was free verse and the image of the poem represented part of the meaning of the poem. The poem looks like a wave if you turn the page to its side. This poem had a lot of imagery and the words the poet chose really helped portray what she was trying to show the readers. There was no rhyme or rhythm in this poem. I thought the theme of this poem was in life, you are trying to hard to accomplish something, and you get so close and then an outside source comes in and causes a distraction or a reason to forbid you for reaching your goal.
ReplyDeleteFIRST has helped me read poetry better. I never really focused on whether it was formal or not. I feel like it has helped me realize all the imagery and the rhyme and rhythm in a poem. I think I can read and appreciate poetry more. "They Have Not Been Able" was a strong poem. Everything it says is true. Being imprisoned physically or emotionally is hard, and the poet expressed this. I think he may have been in war or been imprisoned before because everything he says is so detailed.
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