How is the novel similar to and different from the short stories we have read?
Consider:
The Sound of Thunder
There will Come Soft Rains
The Pedestrian
and The Veldt.
DO NOT concentrate on whether you like the novel or do not like the novel.
- Consider, instead, whether the novel is an effective comment on the price society pays for progress.
- Or, consider whether or not the text has quality, "pores", or fresh and vivid detail.
I think it is similar to the other stories we have read because there is always that one character who goes against the crowd and in this case it is Clarisse. She questions firemen in "Fahrenheit 451" unlike the main character,Guy. It is different to the other stories we have read by it has a lot more detail. Making it a lot more confusing. Also there is more dialogue because there is more than 2 characters than the other stories. I'm not that far into the novel yet, so I'm a tad confused what the overall message is for the price of progress.
ReplyDeleteI also think that Fahrenheit 451 is like most of the other stories we have read. Especially with "The Pedestrian" because I feel like the main characters are similar. I think that the novel is an effective way of portraying how Bradbury feels about the price of progress.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kelly, there's always a character in Bradbury's stories that is different than the majority of other people. I don't mind Farenheit 451 so far. It's a little confusing. It starting to become clearer to me as I get further into the book but at first I was really lost. This is also like a lot of Bradbury's other stories because it's focused on the price of progress. Honestly, I don't like how so many of his stories are focused around that. But I do like how he portrays his view on the price of progress in such a creative way every time. In Farenheit 451, when the fire chief was explaining to Montag how their job came about, he said that it was to make everyone equal. This reminded me of Harrison Burgeron because in that story, people were given handicaps to make everyone equal, much like how the firemen were burning books partly so that no person would be more intelligent or think differently than the next person.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what other people are saying. It is very similar to the other stories we have read inthis class so far. This novel shows the price of progress like the others. I personally think that this story is more detailed than the other stories we have read. The imagery and detail are very strong. I can imagine exactly what Bradbury is saying. Most of the other stories we have read have been confusing at first then you start to understand them as you read on, and F451 is the same way. As I got further into the story I began to understand it a lot more. I agree with Ryan- The characters from F451 and The Pedestrian are very similar.
ReplyDeleteFahrenheit 451 is similar to other stories we've read because they are all about a dystopian future. There is also always a person in the stories who isn't in the norm like everyone else, for example Clarisse. The book also uses short phrases that join to make one long sentence. There is a lot more dialouge in the book than other books we've read. I think the book is pretty effective on commenting on the price of progress. It shows how different our lives would be without books.
ReplyDeleteI, too, think F451 is quite similar to the other stories we have read. They all show Bradbury's take on our future and the price of progress. Similar to the other Bradbury stories we have read, F451 shows what our world would be like with no books and instead technology. If everyone no longer went outside and sped so fast in cars they don't even know what the world is like. It has the same style as the other stories.
ReplyDeleteFarenheit 451 definitely feels like a Bradbury story, and it kind of gives me the same vibe I got from the Pedestrian. But it is also similar to The Veldt with the full-wall televisions. I guess I haven't really gotten far enough into it to determine it's message on the price of progress, but it is evident that that's what it's about. There is also very vivid deatil, such as when the Mechanical Hound is described, I can really see it.
ReplyDeleteI think this book is like the others. Bradbury always seems to have the one person that goes agains what is believed, at the time, to be right. In this story it could be Guy taking the books home with him and hiding them. like Bradburys other sories, Fahrenheit 451 shows how he thinks eventully all this new technology will keep people from having their own imaginations and just watching tv all the time. Bradburys stories always have a lot of detail and so does this one.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with what Ryan said about this story relating to "the Pedestrian" very much. The way that the charachters both are rebelling ageinst the "price of progress" is very relistic. But why there arent anymore rebels than these few people is confusing to me. The price of progress in these storys are bad because by banning books, thats taking away a constitutinal right and that measn that the governemt is taking too much control now also.
ReplyDeleteF451 reminds me of the Veldt and it also reminds me of the Pedestrian. In the first scene when Clarisse and Montag are walking home together, I immediately thought of the Pedestrian and how he walked a lot alone. F451 reminds me of the Veldt because the houses in both short stories are "Smart Houses". The walls are like projectors and can create scenes. Ray Bradbury clearly enjoys writing about the price of progreess. He knows that the world is going to change and advance, so he uses his stories to express his views on the price of progress.
ReplyDeleteSo far, as expected, this is similar to any other Bradbury story because of the way he creates and develops characters. He always picks a certain character to make completely different than other characters in the story. Also the price of progress is portrayed in the opening of the book when the conversation between Clarisse McClellan and Guy Montag. It shows that she thinks that fireman go to start the fires instead of putting them out, and keeps interrogating Guy about who he is and whats he does as a fireman. Overall, this story is an okay read and is confusing at times, but other than that it is an easy read.
ReplyDeleteFahrenheit 451 is similar to the other short stories we have read because of the main characters and their viewpoints. In the other stories, the main character usually goes against the normal, like in "the Pedestrian" when he is the only one going for walk at night. In "Fahrenheit 451, Montag is thinking that what he does as a fireman is wrong, by burning done people's houses and even killing the owners of those houses just because they own books. He is beginning to think that books are valuable and should be thought of highly instead of just burning them. Montag appears to be the only who thinks that way about this subject.
ReplyDeleteI think that Fahrenheit 451 fits in well with the other Ray Bradbury stories. F451 also ties into the theme, the price of progress. In this novel, there is a great use of descriptive words and phrases, like the other stories. I enjoy reading Ray Bradbury's stories and like the others, you kind of have to read twice to get the full message. For myself, I have to read...then reread to understand what is actually going on.
ReplyDeleteThere are several similarities between "Fahrenheit 451" and the short stories we read. The plot typically invovled one main character, who ends up rebelling against society, normally having society winning in the end over the character who stands up for their opinions. Clarisse is obviously the rebel in her community, thinking too much and questioning things. Differences include dialogue,tone, and the detail. The novel involves characters and plots more deeply than that of the short stories.
ReplyDeleteI think that this novel is similar to the other short stories we have read because like Kelly said, there seems to be one person who always goes against the crowd and in this novel it is Clarisse. I have not read much into the book yet so I am not sure what it has to do with the price of progress, but it has a lot of dialogue which makes the novel more detailed.
ReplyDeleteLike all the other Bradbury stories we have read, his novel "Fahrenheit 451" shows in some way the price people pay for progress. Even though I am not extremely far into the book I can already see the price society has paid in the novel. It shows this "price" through the eyes of of the main character Montag who is starting to realize the price as well. The price so far is that society has replaced all forms of text based works, such as books, and magazines wth media like TV. So, as of now the novel is effective at showing this "price" because it at first shows you the view of a majority of society then those who are against the burning of the text works.
ReplyDeleteim am also going to agree with most people that this novel is like most of the other ones we have read already. I also am not too far into the book and so far it is a little confusing but as i go on everything starts to make a little more sense and i feel where the price of progress ties into this. I do not like the dialogue too much though.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that this story is similar to others we have read. There is a lot of description and detail when Bradbury mentions the settings or characters. I agree with Kelly that there is always a character standing up for themselves or what they believe. I'm not exactly sure of the price of progress yet, but I'm sure if this story is similar to his others I will find it soon.
ReplyDeleteF 451 is similar to some of the stories that we've read because he incorporates future technology such as tv projectored walls, featured in The Veldt. Most of Bradbury's stories includes one character that stands out from the rest. Some differences in Bradbury's stories are that the way he introduces characters, the timing of the climax, and the tone of his stories.
ReplyDeleteFahrenheit 451 shows a lot of similarities to Bradybury's other peices of writing we have read. The novel is based in the future and also talks about the speed of human progress with technology. When the innocent pedestrian is attacked by the hound shows almost the same idea by Bradbury in The Pedestrian. The way Bradbury portrays his characters personalities and actions play a huge role in the mood of the story.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone else that F451 is a lot like the other stories we have read so far Bradbury is continuing with his very descriptive style tactic. Also it has a lot of imagery.I think F451 does potray a good story to go along with the price of progress because it shows through Montag's job how they are trying to make everything equal.
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